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Post by doberdawg on Dec 15, 2013 16:45:49 GMT -5
I know I am off topic - BUT - I recently bought a true show car in top condition. It is a 52 Merc Monterey 2 door hard top needing nothing. If I could figure how to post pictures I would. anyway, I am hoping for some info of identifying the flathead V8. Seller (a dealer) said is is a 255 c.i. "B" block. (what ever that is) It has polished Offenhauser heads, (24 bolt) 2 Stronberg carbs, Fenton headers. Distributer (electronic) is in front by the alternator & A/C compressor (no typo)The bell housing is removable & just in front of Bell H (on passenger side of block) is "K1724"
It is highly unlikely I will remove the perfect running engine, but sure would like information on it. It may possibly be the original 52 Merc engine - who knows. I toy with the idea of replacing it with a built 302 or perhaps a 351W & 4 or 5 speed (it has 3 speed over drive).
My poor old 63 S33 & 65 Comet 404 wagon has been neglected since I bought the 52. Any help would be appreciated here or directly to doberdawg@comcast.net
I have googled, visited sites etc. no help other than I learned to go count the head studs (24) & note that the bell housing is NOT part of the block & the dist is in front. Can anybody help?
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Post by arie on Dec 22, 2013 20:23:27 GMT -5
Cannot remember how to identify the 255 from the 239 from an assembled engine. The 255 was used in vehicle made by the Lincoln Mercury Division while the 239 was used by the Ford Division. The bore and stroke were the difference between the 2 engines. The distributor comes out at about 45 degrees on the passenger side of the engine, it was easy to strip the timing gears in the 255.
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Post by roy on Dec 23, 2013 13:05:01 GMT -5
Dober - There is a flathead guy here, I haven't spoken to him in sometie, but Dale is the Flathead guru in Ontario
I will see if he can shed some light on your flattie, the Flatheads are making a big comeback & at our year end show here they almost outnumbered the 5.0 cars.
couple of gorgeous 30' hi boys with blown flatheads, sound just wonderful with twin glaspacks!
Get back to you
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Post by roy on Dec 23, 2013 13:37:44 GMT -5
Posted in wrong page, sorry
Flathead Jacks is a great site for info
you can email him too
And, vanpeltsales.com lists Flatties by each year with great info & differences
good luck
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Post by doberdawg on Dec 26, 2013 15:12:14 GMT -5
So, who is flathead jack (email). vanpeltsales.com never answers their phones. Mine is supposedly a 255 with polished offenhouser heads & intake manifold, Fenton Headers, electronic ignition, A/C & 12 v alternator - all/mostly chrome. I did pay big $$$ for the car & it is very nice. I do kick around a T-5 5 speed, & will most likely add power steer & brakes, perhaps disc. Mostly I just want it for cruisin so the pS & BB would be nice, disc - anything but this absolutely. Also I bought it & another show car because I am tired (66 yrs old) of projects, wanna play.
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Post by meteorman on Dec 26, 2013 20:53:00 GMT -5
doberdawg:
is the 52 Mercury blue if it is it's on U-TUBE
meteorman
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Post by doberdawg on Dec 27, 2013 18:24:13 GMT -5
Is it still on U-Tube? That dealer sold it to a home spun dealer, & I bought it from him with most issues fixed. Flathead Jack told me to build one is now $13K without all the goodies mine has. That made me feel better, as I paid $21K - & cried  Never paid that much before. Then to add insult to injury the same day bought a 64 Ranchero show car. I was looking for a 64 Ranchero for 3 years. It has tubular suspension, power disc brakes, power steering, rebuile CHP 302 & C-^ (rebuilt) & rebuilt posi rear end. It is awesome. So, now I have 2 finished products, & am almost through wrenching. Gotta put the valve covers back on my 57 ford (428 Cobra Jet) & I suppose sell it, my S33 & others |
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Post by meteorman on Dec 31, 2013 0:30:37 GMT -5
DAWG:
YES still on youtube the 1952 is blue w/silver top flathead w/aluminum heads, air, 3-speed w/over drive,
type in( youtube 1952 mercury Monterey) good buy, great car, some cars look good with tinted windos some don't. WE ARE ON THE INFORMATION HIGHWAY
METEORMAN
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Post by roy on Aug 22, 2014 8:58:20 GMT -5
Thought you might like this, I can't post the pic of the car, will try again when I get home
Saw it at a Cruise in outside of Ottawa, Ontario a 54 Merc looking totally stock running the original Flathead with all the era speed equipment, & a blower!
The cool factor was the trans, a late model Ford OD, 4RW70 electronicly controlled, guy says she cruises at 70 mph @ 1900rpm
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Post by doberdawg on Sept 10, 2014 11:49:24 GMT -5
Roy, the 54's did NOT run Flat heads, 63 was last. I have a 52 & a 53 with flat head/3 speed OD trannys. They are both Sports Coupes(2 Dr Hard tops) 52 waqs 1st year of 2 door HT's
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Post by doberdawg on Feb 4, 2015 19:11:50 GMT -5
Yes, it is on U tube. I am in process of rebuilding front ends on both cars, & hoping to add power disc brakes & a 5 speed to the 52, since it is already a Mildly customized (dash board & gauges) & old style hot rod. The discs & 5 speed will both help stopping. I am having a very hard time getting straight answers - anywhere - on a workable dual reservoir set up for 52-53 Mercs. Available for 48-51 & 54-56 & all these years on Fords but not Mercs. The 53 is as straight as the 52 on U tube, but not as recent paint, & it is bone stock. The only non original parts are baby moons (original hub caps in trunk), elec (6v) fuel pump - original still bolted disconnected on engine, & antenna with a spring to bend if hitting a tree branch. ZERO rust on either car. emails to doberdawg@comcast.net get noticed days/weeks faster.
Yes, flathead jack is a great site, if only my pocket book allowed..............
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Post by doberdawg on Apr 25, 2015 12:16:00 GMT -5
Does anybody know rayj53 ?? He has a 53 ford hot rod & did dual reservoir swap on youTube. I would like to find a forum he is on or ANY way I can get hold of him with a question. I have searched for him without luck, but on YouTube he is Rayj53 thanxxx
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Post by arie on Apr 26, 2015 15:20:01 GMT -5
Canadian Fords and Mercury ran the flatheads in 1954. We did not go to the o/h 272 till 1955. Any 54 with a flathead is Canadian built and the 54 with the o/h is a U.S. built model
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Post by doberdawg on Apr 28, 2015 12:49:00 GMT -5
Thanks, I was beginning to suspect as much - flat head wise. I don't think the 272 was used anywhere3 before 55. 239 came out in 54 & I believe the 272 came out in 55 anywhere in the4 world.
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Post by ca on May 7, 2015 0:18:54 GMT -5
Thanks, I was beginning to suspect as much - flat head wise. I don't think the 272 was used anywhere3 before 55. 239 came out in 54 & I believe the 272 came out in 55 anywhere in the4 world. Arie is a wealth of info when it comes to old Fords and Mercs. He useta build the NEW cars we are restoring and or modifying. |
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Never paid that much before. Then to add insult to injury the same day bought a 64 Ranchero show car. I was looking for a 64 Ranchero for 3 years. It has tubular suspension, power disc brakes, power steering, rebuile CHP 302 & C-^ (rebuilt) & rebuilt posi rear end. It is awesome. So, now I have 2 finished products, & am almost through wrenching. Gotta put the valve covers back on my 57 ford (428 Cobra Jet) & I suppose sell it, my S33 & others 
