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Post by db on Jul 1, 2016 16:45:49 GMT -5
I am finally getting my 63 on the road and I find that I cannot make a sharp right turn.
Up on jack stands the wheel turns to the stops on the left but not the right.
The only adjustment that I see is the control valve. I turned in and then out no difference.
The power cylinder was replaced when i got the car. It looks like it bottoms out on the right turn. I bought a replacement and it is the same length. I put it on and have the same issue. I ruled out the control valve (rebuilt by trusted guy who does this for a livin) the hoses are not hanging up on anything. I did the back and forth thing to rule out a vapor lock.
When I remove the power cylinder from the frame bracket and turn the wheels they go stop to stop. on-line stores are not willing (at least none have yet) to measure the cylinder, they say buy it and see. I would rather not go through this for weeks longer.
any help would be appreciated.
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Post by arie on Jul 3, 2016 19:50:44 GMT -5
Someone may have supplied you the wrong cyl. The Ford part number for both the 6 and 8 cyl is C2OZ-3A540-A see if they can cross reference that part number for you. The Fairlane cyl would be the same as Meteor. Comet takes a different cyl. Advance Auto parts list a rebuilt Lares cyl for a 63 Fairlane. My S 33 is equipped with power steering and if suppliers cannot give you the length of the cyl reply on this site and I' ll see if I can measure mine.
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Post by ca on Aug 3, 2016 2:50:43 GMT -5
I was going to measure mine and get back to this. It got a little crazy around here the past month= I became a grandfather for the first time. Now I need a vacation from all of the goings on.
If you still want the length, I'll try to measure mine tomorrow and get it on here before too late in the day.
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Post by db on Aug 7, 2016 23:15:58 GMT -5
Congratulations on becoming a Grandpa, it is a joy.  The pitman arm doesn't look like it has ever been off, but It is centered, and the wheels are straight when I put the valve onto the pitman arm. With the control valve attached, If I disconnect the power cylinder from the frame, the car turns all of the way to the right and left. If I connect the cylinder to the frame, it turns all the way to the left, but not right. It is about 1/4 to 1/2 of a turn difference. |
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Post by ca on Aug 8, 2016 2:02:26 GMT -5
Thank You, db. Looking to teach my granddaughter about cars and how to fish. I forgot to measure mine, butttt made myself a note to get it done tomorrow. My brain is just whack more than usual lately. |
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Post by ca on Aug 8, 2016 17:10:13 GMT -5
10 inches is the tube length. Didn't count the ends or rod outside the fat part of the cylinder.
Do you any good?
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Post by db on Aug 9, 2016 20:15:41 GMT -5
Lets make sure we ar talking the same language, if you measure from the flat end to fittings mine is 12". If you are measuring just the tube, then mine is also 10" and I don't know where ot go next. I am going to check some measurements on the rod ends and see if I am missing something.   |
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Post by arie on Aug 9, 2016 20:31:10 GMT -5
How about the frame bracket where the cyl end fastens to? Has it ever been removed or is it the right bracket?
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Post by db on Aug 9, 2016 20:36:24 GMT -5
it doesn't look like it has been removed or replace. The pictures I've seen seem to be right.  |
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Post by db on Aug 9, 2016 20:36:49 GMT -5
Arie sent me this info, so i will take some measurements when i can get under it, probably tomorrow. ."There should be about 4 threads showing on the rod when you put the control valve on. and 4 3/8 inches from grease fitting on the valve to the centre of the inner left hand connecting rod the valve can be turned in or out to get that distance"
and the bracket only goes on one way
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Post by ca on Aug 10, 2016 1:46:24 GMT -5
I'm looking at my '62, don't forget. Butttt I think my cylinder ends look different than yours. I'll get back under tomorrow and take another look.
Arie, any difference in the '62s and '63s in the power steering parts that you remember?
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Post by arie on Aug 10, 2016 20:03:32 GMT -5
No the 62 and 63 had the same power steering system. The bracket looks the same as mine. Measure the length of the shaft from where it comes out of the cyl to where the shaft ends and the mounting hardware starts. If memory serves me right they had spacers on the inside of the cyl to limit the travel on some car models. ( Don't hold me to that its a long time ago)
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Post by ca on Aug 11, 2016 1:21:19 GMT -5
Didn't get a chance to get under it today. Try again tomorrow. It's kind of buggin me to think my was quite a bit different..... from what I remember.
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Post by db on Aug 21, 2016 14:24:28 GMT -5
SO I checked and measured. It all looks good the 4 3/8 measurement is good.
I spoke to a ford guy the other day, he said to try moving both rubber cushions to the same side. This helped but didn't fix it.
the measurements of the rod are: fully extended 9 3/4 from valve to shoulder; 12 1/8 valve to end. 10 5/8 valve to the start of the threads. fully retracted 2 1/2 to shoulder; 4 7/8 to end; 3 3/8 to start of threads.
the guy I was talking to works on fords from the 50's through the 70's, and he gave me the name of a good front end shop that won't rip me off. So, I will finish putting it back together and give them a call.
thanks for the help.
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Post by db on Sept 20, 2016 21:04:24 GMT -5
Well...thank you all for the information and help. I finally found a source for the power cylinder, correct part number etc. I found that the correct one is an 1" 1/2 shorter (approx). Which gives me the distance I needed to turn all of the way to the right and left.
I am glad that it was a wrong reman part, and not the car. But I sure would have like to have found the part a few months ago, at least before our weather started changing. Oh well.... I will drive it as much as I can until the weather goes way bad.
Thanks again.
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