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Post by Meteorgirl on Oct 9, 2007 10:51:34 GMT -5
I'm going to measure the original bar but I don't think it was even 3/4". Add to that the fact it has been weathered and torqued for over 40 years and that could explain the HUGE difference it gives the car.
I really can't wait to try the rear one. We're going to try and test mount it on top of the tubes like Roy tried. We tried it below and it looked very close.
Roy, I wouldn't mind the pix you emailed Dan for reference.
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Post by roy on Oct 9, 2007 10:58:41 GMT -5
I;m off to Europe, back on Saturday Will forward pics to oyu My son is taking a couple of close ups of L bracket mount I originally had my rear bar over the diff. But, for some reason this put alot of tension on the L bracket mounts as i mounted em Just didn;t feel right to have to hold ends up to L brackets to mount em. But, i should have ran her with bar over diff, see if there was a handling difference I suggest not using poly ends, i think i;m repeating myself, but, you need some "give" to rear bar ,in my case, with hard poly bushings seemd to throw the cars balance out of wack. Just worked to good! The answer is adjustable end links, but, yet to find some
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Post by Rob on Oct 9, 2007 12:45:51 GMT -5
1962-65 Fairlane, Comet, Meteor
Front Swaybar 1" FFF-1001 $189.00 Rear Swaybar 3/4" FFR-0601 $179.00
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Post by minimandan1 on Oct 9, 2007 20:46:54 GMT -5
did weight calculations by diameter when I 1st bought it. Although you are only increasing 1/4 diamater. you are increasing volumetric weight by about 72%
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Post by johnc118 on Oct 9, 2007 21:14:45 GMT -5
Talked with a friend that races road courses today. He said the urethane pieces are fine, if you are getting oversteer,i.e. rear sliding around, he says you are over driving the tires. i.e. get better tires, drop the rear air pressure, increase the front.
60 series tires may not be short enough. Plus the fact you need a performance tire something with a stiff sidewall. even a set of old tires can have sidewalls that are breaking down.
I can tell you I had a 79 (fox bodies) mustang I went from Polyglas to Goodyear Wingfoots that were Aramid belted and sidewalled and those tires would not lay over. This changed the oversteer of the fox body to almost a neutral steer.
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Post by Rob on Oct 9, 2007 22:48:58 GMT -5
I only hope to decrease my chances of falling out the window while driving the recommended speed around a corner. Not to chase down an Enzo through the corners of the Tail of the Dragon.
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Post by Meteorgirl on Oct 9, 2007 23:13:01 GMT -5
I measured the stock bar that we took off the car. It is 11/16". That means in basic diameter is it almost 45% larger. Using Dan's calculations thats probably close to 80%. All I know is everyone should get one. You won't believe the difference even in daily driving like swerving to miss a pothole.
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Post by Rob on Oct 9, 2007 23:27:45 GMT -5
I contacted Glen, he was happy to hear about us talking about him. He quoted me a bit less than I posted above, even with shipping and insurance.
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Post by minimandan1 on Oct 9, 2007 23:29:38 GMT -5
sorry mis calculated- if it were a 3/4 bar it would be 78%. A 11/16 bar makes it roughly 112% larger by volumetric weight. IE if the same exact alloy was used for both bars the 1in would way more than twice the orig.......that sounds about right couse i member that things was pretty dang heaver compared to the stock one that you could practically wave around.........There it is folks numbers to prove efficiancy!
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Post by allshow on Oct 11, 2007 12:10:41 GMT -5
ok so i tried to look up quickor and could not find anything can anyone give me a direct number so i can order one of these please. I also read something and im trying to find it but it said something about with a new sway bar that is stronger and not as giving as the old one that there was damage to the tir rods after a bit of good use with the new one on. Anyone hear something about this?
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Post by ca on Oct 11, 2007 12:36:18 GMT -5
quick thought about this and don't see why it would happen.
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Post by Meteorgirl on Oct 11, 2007 15:15:11 GMT -5
I will post the info from where i got mine tonight. We ordered another one for a different application last week and it is here already. As for the additional wear, that doesn't make sense. You'de think a good bar would help take away some of the stress from the other components. The only way it should be harder on them is if you DRIVE the car harder with it on.
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Post by w2zero on Oct 11, 2007 15:46:27 GMT -5
There was a lot of talk about a stiffer bar causing stress cracks in the lower control arm. My own opinion is that the lower arm was already cracked when they installed the bar and/or they got too happy around corners and through potholes.
It is similar to the fairy tale about the poly bushings on the strut rods causing them to break. The rods were already eroded from contact with carbon black infused rubber bushings and the owners ignored that weakness.
BTW, the strut rods are mild steel so they can be welded back to full thickness.
Also, the stock FoMoCo anti-sway bars and aftermarket sway bars of same thicknesses are not necessarily the same. Different alloys make for different performance so one company's 1" bar can differ significantly from company's 1" bar.
confused yet?
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Post by Meteorgirl on Oct 11, 2007 15:52:50 GMT -5
I got mine from;
Suspenstech PO Box 68011 Portland, Oregon 97268 503-819-7847
I'm sure his name was Dave and I found him thru ebay.
Excellent service.
He has an item up right now for a Chevy but you can read his commentary on the bars.
ebay 50169535801
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Post by minimandan1 on Oct 11, 2007 21:39:20 GMT -5
ya hes the one. Meteorgirl you get that rear in? ??....if not I can send you roys pics if ya'd like ALSO if anyone is looking for some new rear shocks as well i just picked up my sensa trac coilovers from amazon for 60 Bucks for the pair plue FREE shipping....they usually run 80-100 bucks plus shipping- good deal!
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