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Post by Joeyman on Apr 10, 2008 16:19:24 GMT -5
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Post by ca on Apr 10, 2008 18:01:35 GMT -5
i think Stu had his done at 49 cause of the wheels he wanted to run= i think
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Post by STU on Apr 10, 2008 21:09:39 GMT -5
My 9"diff is around 49.5"long I think, my wheels are 14x8. What did you do bust the 8" diff....I broke it with my stock 5.0...Took a lot more chebby to brake the Ford axle I guess. ;D
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Post by Meteorgirl on Apr 11, 2008 8:39:15 GMT -5
Well, we were under the car last night replacing the brake lines and installing the rear sway bar. I measured the banjo housing and it appears that the 63 is about 52 1/2 give or take a 1/4 inch for tape measure flex etc. This is measuring like in that drawing where they show 51.25 just like CA said. I measured the perches but can't find that note. I'll remeasure. The 58 wasn't very high off the ground but I managed to slide under and measured it about 4 times. It seems that the housing is about 53 1/4 inches measured the same way as the others and center to center on the leaf springs is 42 1/2 inches. You sometimes read that the 57-59 Rancheros and wagons had a narrower diff but I have found no actual Ford data to back that up. They DO however come with the larger wheel bearings than the std 57-59 9inch. Hubby has a 57 & a 59 Ranchero in the car collection where he works and when it comes into the museum shop they have for spring service we will put that measurment to rest once and for all too.
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Post by Joeyman on Apr 11, 2008 10:18:05 GMT -5
CA = 52 1/2 Meteorgirl = 52 1/2 stu = 49 1/2 he thinks I'll have to measure mine soon. So far it looks the 52 1/2 is the winner. Now we need to find a car that has a 9inch that measure's 52 1/2 check out this link dfwmotorsport.com/Fairlane/9inchrearends.htmBut it says axle length. Is this the same as flange to flange or this link www.mustangsandmore.com/ubb/FordRearDimensions.htmlhas this note These measurements are from flange to flange. Subtract 5" for bare housing length. what does subtract 5" for bare housing length mean? .
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Post by Meteorgirl on Apr 11, 2008 11:23:07 GMT -5
Flange to Flange is what the Cyclone drawing you posted shows as 56.25. So technically, our Meteors would be about 57 1/2 measured that way. I had measured at about 52 1/2 like I said within a 1/4 inch due to measuring around the banjo hump. I would believe that it is really 52.25 or 57.25 flange to flange which would make it exactly the same widh as the early Mustang and the 57-59 Ranchero & wagon. Like I said, our 58 is about 53 1/4 but I'm going to get help doing it again and we will still measure those Rancheros when we gat a chance.
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Post by Joeyman on Apr 11, 2008 11:44:19 GMT -5
LOOKS LIKE the 57 ranchero is the one I would want.
according to that link.
57-68 passenger car and 1/2 ton truck - medium duty, stronger than Mustang type, 28 and 31 splines Ranchero/Torino - heavy duty thick wall housing, 3.25 inch diameter axle tubes with flat tops
I need the heavy duty stuff for what I'm doing.
Now how in the heck I'm I supposed to find a 57 ranchero rearend
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Post by ca on Apr 11, 2008 11:58:06 GMT -5
good luck tryin ta git a rearend out of a 57 anythingi wonder if those dimensions are housing flange to flange or axle flange to flange
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Post by Meteorgirl on Apr 11, 2008 11:59:55 GMT -5
57 to 59 were all the same. That HD rear end was also found in the staion wagons and sedan deliveries. I doubt you could blow up a regular 57-59 9inch that came in all the regular Big Ford sedans. Hubbys is the original diff with a posi added and its still going strong. They used to have the same dif (reg 57 ford) in a 66 Cyclone 390 GT 4 speed car they drag raced for many years and never broke anything but ujoints. The big bearing ones are nice but people that have them usually know what they're worth. The regular ones sell up here used complete with axles and gears for 50-75.00.
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Post by ca on Apr 11, 2008 12:03:35 GMT -5
i just read on one of the sites you posted taht an early Mustang housing is right about 52 inches so them there dimensions must be axle flange to flange. so we need MG to pull off her rims n tires and measure again ;D
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Post by Meteorgirl on Apr 11, 2008 12:19:08 GMT -5
I measured an 8" from a 66 Mustang last year when it was in the club shop and out of the car. It was 52 1/4 from housing flange to housing flange. This is measured the way that Cyclone drawing shows at 51.25. That car got a 9 inch from a 58 Ford. Seems to me they didn't even have to move the spring perches if I remember correctly. I don't remember if the 9" was really any wider overall though. I wasn't working on it and it was getting the stock wheels put back on so if there was any width dif it really didn't show.
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Post by ca on Apr 11, 2008 12:37:33 GMT -5
so if we add about 5 inches(for axles,etc.) to our 52 1/4 we're right at 57 1/4. if you had the stock rims n tires there wouldn't be any problem with up to 60 inches but with your setup Joeyman, you are lookin at 57 or an early Mustang or gettin one narrowed
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Post by Joeyman on Apr 11, 2008 13:07:25 GMT -5
looks like i'm out of luck..........I have to have one narrowed and get axles for it.
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Post by ca on Apr 11, 2008 13:37:22 GMT -5
with all the racing that goes on in the midwest i'd bet you could find one local without killin yur wallet. lots of them short track guys use the 9 inch. check out the local ads and maybe put a wanted post in yur local paper or check out local track websites - just a thought.
here's a setup on ebay but it's in new york= Item number: 160228511004
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Post by Joeyman on Apr 11, 2008 13:42:55 GMT -5
that's a good example
YEAH looks nice but 49inch is to narrow. PLus he has 4.56 gears and a spool. I'd have to buy gears and another locker. 500 for the locker I don't know on gears.
I wonder if I can find a used detroit locker for a 9inch.
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